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Curious and Curiouser Podcast

Jan 23, 2018

Today’s conversation is one Tracey and Cayly were admittedly nervous about having on the podcast. But they ultimately decided it was an important topic to discuss, so, here goes.


The question around which this conversation is oriented is:  Are we to the point that we’re so easily offended that we’re getting in the way of the very change we seek?


See also:  Are we too politically correct?


Tracey and Cayly talk about feminism, the #metoo movement, infighting among liberals and progressives, the importance of maintaining our sense of humor amidst all the political challenges we’re facing today, and shy leading with curiosity is essential to having productive dialogues about important issues.


We hope you enjoy this discussion and welcome any and all feedback on these issues. So please feel free to reach out with any additional thoughts you might have by emailing the show at or by DMing Cayly through Instagram (@cayly.c).


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Highlights from the episode:


- Why Cayly and Tracey identify as progressives but not a liberals

- What is feminism? How do Tracey and Cayly define it for themselves?

- How we can inadvertently alienate allies

- The complicated historical origins of the feminist movement

- Feminism, race, and intersectional feminism

- We are products of context and environment

- How Cayly became progressive despite being raised Mormon in a very conservative community

- Leading with curiosity instead of judgment with those who have views that are different than yours

- How we can turn on people who actually agree with us and how we get in our own way

- Why no political candidate can please everyone in their own party

- Dave Chapelle recent Netflix special ( and why he’s quitting comedy

- Have we lost our sense of humor and ability to laugh at ourselves?

- Our thoughts on the #metoo movement

- Braving the Wilderness by Brene Brown (

- Bret Weinstein on Joe Rogan’s podcast ( (

- Why Tracey and Cayly were nervous about having this conversation on the podcast

- Is any offensive humor ok?

- How we can educated each other with grace instead of judgment

- And more!