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Curious and Curiouser Podcast

Oct 30, 2018

This week’s episode is a juicy one, y’all. Tracey and Cayly are discussing infidelity, betrayal, and jealousy in relationships. They talk about why cheating isn’t always a black and white issue, how to recover from infidelity, why jealousy is normal and not something about which to feel ashamed, and how to recognize the signs that betrayal might be on its way.


They also talk about self-betrayal, sex, emotional affairs, and how to find the balance between lust and safety in long-term partnerships.


Tracey and Cayly loved having this conversation and hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as they enjoyed making it. If so, please consider leaving the show a 5-star rating or review in iTunes. ( And if you’d like to support the podcast by making a donation, you can do so through Paypal here ( Thanks, y’all!





Hold Me Tight ( ) by Sue Johnson (


John Gottman and the Gottman Institute (


The State of Affairs:  Rethinking Infidelity ( by Ester Perel (


Ester Perel Ted Talk on Rethinking Infidelity (


Come As You Are ( by Emily Nagoski, Ph.D.